Orrin, You are the champion for win-win! Anyone with common sense can read you article and conclude that YOU WERE NEVER TRYING TO COMPETE WITH THEM, YOU WERE SIMPLY TRYING TO HELP COMPLETE IT! Their overzealous sense of pride and arrogance is really astonishing to me! Arrogance is when your confidence is greater than your competence! I found this great quote about pride that I wanted to share with everyone: “There are many reasons managers fail. For some, the organization outgrows them. Others don’t change with the times. Some spread themselves too thin and work long and hard but not smart. Many abandon the priorities and disciplines that once made them great and never get back to them. A few make poor character choices…But all these causes for management failure have their root in one common cause: pride. In the simplest terms, pride is devastating. I’m not talking about the pride one has in their work or their accomplishments. I’m indicting the pride that inflates your sense of self-worth and distorts your perspective of reality.” ~ Dave Anderson I can't wait to read more! It is all making sense to me now! Best, Matt