Orrin, Thank you for sharing your WIN thinking in these areas! As Chris Brady said recently "Those with the right thinking can always find the right opportunities." Mona Vie is certainly the right opportunity & the more I learn about Mona Vie, the more I think and believe it is the current best opportunity available! To answer your question about a diamond who speaks english who may have signed their contract after 9/1/99 - I believe that Dave & Kristen Dussault may have. I believe they went diamond in late 2005 because of their focus on the health & wellness products for maybe a year or so before they went diamond. I believe DCI and Team implemented a similar program with DOT1 STEP shortly after hearing about their program at a DCI function I was in attendance at. You and Chris would probably know more about if they did or not sign before 9/1/99, but this is the only couple I can think of outside of Team. You certainly made a good point about not many American born diamonds outside of Team from 9/1/99 onward. Looking forward to joining the great Mona Vie Team in the near future! -Ben