Orrin, I didn't know for sure and so that's why I asked. I want to say that your point was right on with the old business model not working for Americans who were willing "to work hard" at that model. In 2004, for example, when Quixtar made about 1 billion in sales - I have to wonder where all the profits went that were shared with the field if by only 6 Quixtar only member were able to hit the founder's emerald and above? I always liked John Crowe's audio - "The Jet Stream". I especially liked his discussion on talking to people about their dreams and then helping them achieve their dreams - so much like the Team's thinking in that area.