well I am not surprised at the saga unfolding, we were founders emeralds q'ing for 10 years, had our 6 up however never got there. we left the game at the end of 03 after some horrific treatment from a'corp australia. after reading the last post from australia it only confirmed our experience. 18 years of loyalty taken away with the pen of the infamous corporate solicitor. believe me the opportunity in amway has past it's use by date. we moved back into the trad buiness and have never been happier making 5-6 times what we ever made (including a good tool buis) and still not working hard.. life is what you make it. Hat's off the Orin and the team I have followed your plight since you put it online. you guys rock and deserve all your success keep it going!! we joined MonaVie a couple of years ago however still have the bad taste from devoting the time and having all taken, still don't trust the companies in MLM. we have over 5k of members in the letf leg waiting to be built on. so we know it is growing. Maybe one day! the sweetness will come back.. I will confirm the fact that well over 80% of australian dimonds never re-qualified, they just never showed up again on the diamond trips, it is amazing what the trip photos revealed in the amagrams... it was a case of make it once and keep faking it!