Squints and anyone else who questions why Orrin keeps talking about Amway, First, remember the Quote, "All it takes for evil to triumph is for enough good men to do nothing." and second, remember that Orrin is a watchman (or sheepdog, if you will) as mentioned in Ezekiel 33:1-7. Ezekiel 3:6 says, "But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand." (KJV) As I see it, Orrin has the mandate, the responsibility, the requirement, the burden, the very command of God, if you will, to confront and expose wrong thinking on the part of the powers that be at Amway. Some offer the example of Jesus when he was arrested and tried and was silent before his accusers, but ignore that Jesus in the months and years prior to this did not keep silent about the wrong practices and teachings of the "scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites." I think that Orrin should be thanked for continuing to bring to light the continuing wrong practices and thinking of the leadership of Amway and his efforts to either change those wrong practices and thinking or warn those who would be affected to flee from the trap. "Fire and Honor" DaveC (All Star Team)