Hi Orrin. I am the person who wrote the original article "outing" Amway Australia. I am very curious to see what has been said by others in response. I would like to comment on IBO Fightback's comment. In my original post I requested that people contact Amway Australia Management. You can ring them on 02 9843 2000. Ask for Amway Legal or the acting CEO, Mr Coldwell. (The previous CEO, Peter Williams resigned in April 2008 - did someone see the writing on the wall - under his guidance Amway Australia is sliding backwards, fast) Why believe the data on Amway Wiki? How does IBO Fightback verify the comments on Amway Wiki??? I am not interested in the comments by a website - that website is no more valid than me saying 78% of Amway Diamonds in Australia re-qualify every year & make an average income of $375,000. Just as a side issue, Amway Australia will not pay you a Diamond bonus if you have international legs. The SIP (Sales Incentive Performance) bonuses are paid on Australian legs. How many people are Diamonds in the Australian market - IE: they have 6 qualified - in country legs? So again I repeat my original post: "Get the transparent facts". (I have one additional question to ad to the list) Before you go on building the Amway Australia business find out the following: 1. How many Diamonds qualified between 1985-2007 have re-qualified more than once. How many Emeralds, How many Saphires, How many Rubies? - this goes to the heart of the issue - is the business model sustainable? 2. What is the turnover rate on average for a Diamond group? 3. What is the average income made by a Qualified Diamond in Australia? How many years did the average Diamond take to achieve this income. 4. What is the Amway Australia sales volume for each year 1985 - 2007? In real $. Lets stop the internet chat in its tracks. I am not asking anyone to believe or verify my questions with "further fake data" - I want all current, former & intending IBO's with Amway Australia to become aware or the THE TRANSPARENT FACTS. Email, ring or arrange a meeting with Amway Australia management. Go and get these very simple & worthwhile questions answered. Then post the answers on Amway Wiki - then post them here. Post the names of all those who are currently qualified & all of the names for each year: 1985-2007 who qualified. Amway want IBO's to be transparent - well now we want them to be just as transparent. Their own website says "money, time & lifestyle" let them prove it. I challenge someone else to do this investigative work & report back. That way someone cannot claim that I am faking the results , just to prove my version of reality. I am so confident that the results of this investigation - that I will let an outsider investigate my claims & report back. The claims will be catastrophic - as I said originally - once you have the THE TRANSPARENT FACTS FROM AMWAY AUSTRALIA - YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO KEEP BUILDING IT. If any commentator is confident that my questions will be answered with data that reflects Amway Australia as a positive, profitable & successful business experience - then I will issue a retraction. My article is written out of deep concern for Amway IBO's & those intending to sign up in Amway. I am an insider - I know what has gone on behind the scenes, I know who is not re-qualified even at the Diamond, Emerald, Saphire & platinum levels. I have been on many, many, many Australian Leadership Seminars with Amway Australia. I have sat around & chatted with key leaders in Amway Australia. I have deep concern that people are filled with a "fake" promise of long term success, by those who still hold out hop that they can make significant money. This is the only reason many people buy Amway product - PV. I am looking forward to seeing THE TRANSPARENT FACTS. I challenge all commentators to contact Amway Australia report back to this website.