Orrin, I like Amway dirt as much as the next guy - and I bet there are a lot of tipsters with data for you. Where are the 'big names' in the organization these days? Start with the IBOAI board, past and present. Who is still left? What happened to the others? I think that kind of anecdotal evidence, more than anything else, is proof of the health of the business. Leaf through the Profiles of Success - how many of these folks still qualify as Diamond? I am too small a fish to know any of these folks - much less know if they are still a part of the "best and brightest opportunity", or if they shook the dust off their sandals at the Ada City Limits. One question, though, Orrin, if I might be so bold. Given that your six monts are up (well, eight, with extensions), what lawsuits are you currently a party to? I say this not in the spirit of challenge, but just curious how many there were, how many you won, you know - scoreboard stuff. I looked at the FreeTheIBO site, and it appears that the latest info is Nov/Dec vintage. How about an update? Thanks for all you do. Bill The Computer Guy