For IBOFallback - Good points about the relative definitions of levels and compensations. A Gold is a one-weeker, true, and a Q-12 is a full-year. I totally missed that on first read. But it got me thinking.... Both MonaVie and A/Q are private companies. There is no requirement to disclose anything at all. Yet, the latest publically available data H.I. was able to find from A/Q was 2005, whereas the freshest MV data is at most 6 months old. Why is that? Both have highly computerized ordering and data collection services. Both systems are relatively new - built from the ground up with a full expectation of how big the operation would become. Both could generate aggregated sales reports hourly, if really desired. And yet...whereas MV generates semi-annual IDS reports...A/Q only reports a single number - total sales. Occasionally, it generates numbers about the largest pins. All other numbers I ever read about in 17 years of A/Q affiliation were word-of-mouth passed downline. Why is that? What is A/Q hiding? The death spiral? (I have an image of the one ice skater dropping the spiralling skater's hand and raising both arms for applause) Have I been burning up the MV business? Not yet. Here's some insight I had last night, though....I have one apprentice leg that is ridiculously large from other people's additions, but a small profit leg. As long as I remain active, that massive point total on the apprentice leg is 'banked money', just waiting for me to build the profit leg to claim it. Obvious, most of you say. Yet, in A/Q, there is no such incentive to build. Every month begins again at zero. Talk about Sisyphus! Every month, the rock rolls back to the bottom. With MV, by comparison, every Saturday the incentive is there, undiminished. Indeed, it is larger and will continue to get larger, further incentivizing you to build. And that is why I am glad that Orrin, a man of true vision, was able to see this aspect of MV. Thank you, Orrin.