"As I read the discussions on both sides, I am amused at how dogmatic the Darwinists are that there is no room for Intelligent Design." Translation: As I read the discussions on both sides, I am amused at how dogmatic the SCIENTISTS are that there is no room for MAGIC.

--------------------------------------- Translation: I, Bob.Ex haven’t got a leg upon which to stand, so I, being of the “Weak point, shout louder” brand of online, uhm...”debaters” will resort to inane vulgarity, in hopes that you’re more impressed by the size of my balls than that of my brain. Bob is trying really, really hard (I guess we give ‘im an “E” 4 effort?) to make something outta’ nothing, here...which isn’t surprising as that’s what all evolutionary Big-Bangers posit: that all this something, came from nothing. The laws of science actually break down right at the beginning. The very starting point for an atheistic universe is based upon something that cannot explain its own existence. The scientific laws by which atheists want all certainty established do not even exist as a category at the beginning of the universe because, according to the laws of science by which atheists want to measure all things, matter cannot simply “pop into existence” on its own The vacuousness of the atheistic approach to the universe’s origin is illustrated by Nobel laureate & atheist Francis Crick’s answer to the question of how life around us began: “Probably because a spaceship from another planet brought spores to seed the earth.” Carl Sagan went to his grave “viewing the whole universe as nothing more than molecules in motion.” He believed that some extraterrestrial entity would be able to explain us to ourselves and thereby justified the billions spent on listening in on outer space, watching and waiting for some contact. Bob.Ex has, obviously, had such contact and has, magnanimously, popped in to knock us all for a loop with his mighty argument in favor of science. He’s attempting to blind us all with the very same science that has resulted in his poor-sightedness. As Bob himself might say “Moron this later”. In his book “Miracles”, C.S. Lewis takes the kind of stupidity (I’d call it ‘thinking’, but it’s not quite) that Bob peddles to task:

"Reason might conceivably be found to depend on [another reason] and so on; it would not matter how far this process was carried provided that you found Reason coming frm Reason at each stage. It is only when you are asked to believe in Reason coming from non-reason that you must cry ‘Halt!’”.

Enjoy your Sunday, Orrin. I’d say the same to our friend Bob.Ex, but he’s an Existentialist...who doesn’t seem to enjoy anything around these parts (except, perhaps, making an ass out of himself).